Zm-5a Mc 500/8 M42 Soviet Mirror Telephoto Lens Review

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:40 pm   Post subject: 500mm mirror options.....which one should I get?
pollux114 wrote: This is my beginning post on this forum and permit me simply start by maxim that this site is keen. I've e'er wanted more than reach when shooting wildlife, but never had a couple k dollars kicking around for a nice 500mm lens. I became interested in Mirror lenses, merely quickly turned abroad in one case I started looking at the results from some of them........however, these were all the "newer" ebay models, similar opteka. Since coming hither I've been turned on to the russian made mirrors, which seem to be miles ahead of the others. So it seems similar a adept step while I'm saving for a long prime. Long story short, hither are the options I take found, all within a similiar price range. My just concerns are highest IQ and lowes "donut effect". I would be interested in hearing from anyone with experience using whatsoever of them, or links to sample images. Some of these are not Russian, but are included because I have constitute good reviews, or couldn't find any info at all. 1. Spiratone 500mm f/8 2. Soligor C/D 500mm f/8 three. Celestron 500mm f/v.6 4. ZM-5CA MC 500mm f/viii five. ZM-5A 500mm f/8 6. 3M-5A 500mm f/8 (Typo? 3M=ZM?) vii. 3M-6A MC 500mm f/half-dozen.3 (about $100 more than the residue....worth it?) Thanks in advance. Oh, too. If it matters they all accept M42 mounts and I program on putting it on a Catechism.

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:11 pm   Post subject field:
Attila wrote: 6. 3M-5A 500mm f/8 (Typo? 3M=ZM?) 7. 3M-6A MC 500mm f/half-dozen.three (most $100 more than the rest....worth it?) Both are very good, last 1 is extremely good sharp like hell if you lot come across this is an 500mm lens. Surely worth to take it. Put into your list Tamron SP 500mm f8 sharp , compact great lens. Other lenses on your list I call up lot more worst than these. With Russians you need to count lens diameter especially vii , it's huge. I call back information technology will be united nations-mountable on Canon firm of flash will not allow to mountain it. I did test with several camera , Olympus Eastward-300 (like a brick) and Olympus E-1 (no flash) was right camera for large Russians. _________________ ------------------------------- Items on sale on Ebay Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.two, Minolta Physician 250mm f5.half-dozen, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8

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Posted: Thu April 09, 2009 i:25 pm   Post subject:
pollux114 wrote: Thanks, I had heard of some problems with the lens barrel hit the flash housing. Some people use extension rings to clear the housing, but apparently that but works if the lens will focus beyond infinity, which I am not sure if this one does. Similar I said, information technology's about $100 more than the 3M-5A and the aircraft is quite high, so it may be out of my price range at the moment. Is there that much of a divergence between the 3M-5A and the 3M-6A? Would the quality of the 6A rival say....the sigma 400mm prime? If and then, and then I could consider just getting this now equally my long lens and not worrying about a prime until I tin can beget a *really* skilful one. So the 3M-5A and the ZM-5A are actually different lenses? This may be a bit of a noob question, only what do those letters mean? (the 3M and ZM) do they correspond the manufacturer of the lens? I find information technology difficult to track down these russian mirror models, it seems you need to know exactly the model # that you are looking for.

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:47 pm   Postal service subject:
Attila wrote: 3M-6A really practiced 1, you lot can't find better ane even for thousand bucks. 400mm sigma can be very crap and good one also , but handy , small. _________________ ------------------------------- Items on sale on Ebay Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta Dr. 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta Doctor 250mm f5.half-dozen, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.viii

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:30 pm   Postal service subject:
fergus wrote: Hello pollux114 Quote: And then the 3M-5A and the ZM-5A are actually different lenses? No, I believe they are the same. The "three" marking on the lens actually is "Z" translated from Russian alphabet and not in fact numeral 3. You may find more post on this topic in this thread http://forum.mflenses.com/please-recommend-good-mirror-lens-t14017.html Regards Fergus _________________ DSLR: Canon EOS 400D, EOS 40D SLR: Pentax: LX, MV, Ricoh: KR10 Super, XR6, Canon Pelix, Zeiss Ikon Contaflex Super Medium Format: Agfa Isolette II, Lubitel 166B, Yashica Mat 124G Lenses CZJ: Flektogon 2.8/35, Tessar 2.8/fifty, Sonnar three.5/135 zebra , Sonnar iii.5/135 MC, Sonnar 2.8/180 P6 (Star wars). Meyer/Pentacon: Lydith 3.v/xxx, Domiplan ii.viii/l, 1.8/50 MC, iv/300, Russian: Industar-50-2 3.5/50, Helios 44-two, Helios 44M, Helios 44M-4, jupiter-ix 2/85MC, jupiter-9 ii/85 Kiev/contax (EOS modern), ZM-5A eight/500 Tamron: SP2.5/90 (52BB), CT-135 two.eight/135, SP2.5/180 (63B), 3.5/200 Adjust-A-Matic(870Au), SP2.viii/300mm (60B), SP35-80mm F/two.8-three.8 (01A), 70-150 F/3.5 (QZ-150M), 70-210 F/3.8-4 (46A), SP70-210 F/3.5 (19AH), SP 60-300mm F/three.9-5.four (23A), SP ane.4X (140F), SP 2X (01F) Rikenon XR 3.5/28, XR ii/50, EE 3.five/135 Carl Zeiss: Contax Sonner ii.eight/85, Pro-Tessar 3.2/35, two.8/50, 4/115, Pantar iv/30, iv/75 Leica - Leitz Wetzlar: Macro Elmarit-R 2.8/60 Canon: FL 3.5/35. i.4/50, ane.eight/50, 2.5/135 Olympus - Zuiko: Grand.Zuiko Machine-W 35/28, F Zuiko Auto-S ane.viii/50 Other: Panagor Machine Macro Converter, Voightlander Color-Skopar X 2.viii/l, Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Tele-Arton 4/85, Vivitar Series-i 28-90mm F/ii.eight-3.5, Tokina RMC 2.viii/28mm S, Tokina RMC fourscore-200 F/iv, Hanimex 3.five/135, Pentax-A SMC i.vii/50, Palinar 4/100, Enna Lithagon 4/24, Ina 2.8/35, Harmony two.viii/35, Penaflex-color two.eight/50, Various retina lenses, Diverse Meopta lenses Photography Obsession Gallery Last edited by fergus on Friday Aug twenty, 2010 4:48 pm; edited 1 fourth dimension in total

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Posted: Thu April 09, 2009 5:00 pm   Mail discipline:
pollux114 wrote: Alright, thanks for that.......I've found them called both......at different prices. I had previously read that postal service, which is where I got my starting indicate for which lenses to search for. My reason for starting this thread (primarily) was because I institute some other similiar lenses which I couldn't find Any data well-nigh, and I didn't want to inadvertently pass up an unknown jewel. Now my outcome is deciding betwixt the 5A and the 6A........the 6A volition end upwardly costing be close to $400 CAN, but if the IQ is that much meliorate, then it's probably worth it.

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Posted: Thu April 09, 2009 v:03 pm   Mail discipline:
Attila wrote: pollux114 wrote: Alright, thanks for that.......I've found them called both......at different prices. I had previously read that post, which is where I got my starting bespeak for which lenses to search for. My reason for starting this thread (primarily) was because I found another similiar lenses which I couldn't find ANY information nearly, and I didn't want to inadvertently pass upwardly an unknown precious stone. Now my issue is deciding betwixt the 5A and the 6A........the 6A will end upwards costing exist shut to $400 Can, but if the IQ is that much better, then information technology'due south probably worth it. 6A is rare but 400 USD is double price at to the lowest degree.. Take a more mutual Tamron and look for cheaper 6A you tin sell too Tamron at whatsoever fourth dimension. _________________ ------------------------------- Items on sale on Ebay Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.eight, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.two, Minolta Md 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:51 pm   Post subject:
fergus wrote: Hi pollux114 My 3M-5A (ZM-5A) lens just fits my Canon 400D, lens barrel almost touches prism/wink housing. I like this lens a lot, but tin't annotate on how information technology compares to other 500mm mirror lenses. I would have concerns almost 3M-6A (ZM-6A) fitting Catechism DSLR's without the need for using extension tubes or converters. Regards Fergus. _________________ DSLR: Canon EOS 400D, EOS 40D SLR: Pentax: Sixty, MV, Ricoh: KR10 Super, XR6, Canon Pelix, Zeiss Ikon Contaflex Super Medium Format: Agfa Isolette II, Lubitel 166B, Yashica Mat 124G Lenses CZJ: Flektogon ii.viii/35, Tessar 2.8/l, Sonnar three.v/135 zebra , Sonnar three.5/135 MC, Sonnar 2.viii/180 P6 (Star wars). Meyer/Pentacon: Lydith 3.five/30, Domiplan 2.viii/50, ane.8/50 MC, iv/300, Russian: Industar-l-two 3.5/fifty, Helios 44-ii, Helios 44M, Helios 44M-4, jupiter-9 2/85MC, jupiter-9 2/85 Kiev/contax (EOS mod), ZM-5A 8/500 Tamron: SP2.5/90 (52BB), CT-135 ii.viii/135, SP2.5/180 (63B), iii.5/200 Accommodate-A-Matic(870Au), SP2.eight/300mm (60B), SP35-80mm F/ii.8-3.8 (01A), 70-150 F/iii.5 (QZ-150M), 70-210 F/3.eight-iv (46A), SP70-210 F/3.5 (19AH), SP lx-300mm F/three.9-five.4 (23A), SP 1.4X (140F), SP 2X (01F) Rikenon XR 3.5/28, XR ii/50, EE iii.five/135 Carl Zeiss: Contax Sonner 2.8/85, Pro-Tessar iii.ii/35, ii.8/50, iv/115, Pantar 4/xxx, 4/75 Leica - Leitz Wetzlar: Macro Elmarit-R 2.8/60 Canon: FL iii.5/35. ane.4/50, 1.8/fifty, 2.5/135 Olympus - Zuiko: G.Zuiko Auto-W 35/28, F Zuiko Automobile-Southward 1.8/fifty Other: Panagor Machine Macro Converter, Voightlander Color-Skopar X 2.viii/50, Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Tele-Arton 4/85, Vivitar Series-1 28-90mm F/2.8-3.5, Tokina RMC 2.8/28mm Southward, Tokina RMC 80-200 F/iv, Hanimex 3.5/135, Pentax-A SMC 1.7/50, Palinar 4/100, Enna Lithagon four/24, Ina 2.8/35, Harmony 2.eight/35, Penaflex-color 2.8/50, Various retina lenses, Diverse Meopta lenses Photography Obsession Gallery Terminal edited by fergus on Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:48 pm; edited 1 time in total

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:13 pm   Post subject:
Attila wrote: fergus wrote: Howdy pollux114 My 3M-5A (ZM-5A) lens just fits my Canon 400D, lens barrel about touches prism/wink housing. I like this lens a lot, merely tin't annotate on how information technology compares to other 500mm mirror lenses. I would accept concerns almost 3M-6A (ZM-6A) fitting Canon DSLR'south without the need for using extension tubes or converters. Regards Fergus. 3M-5A is one of the best lens on affordable price, like Tamron SP 500mm. 6A bore is almost double so need carefully check information technology out. _________________ ------------------------------- Items on auction on Ebay Sony NEX-seven Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta Doctor 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.half-dozen, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.eight

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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 eight:55 am   Post subject: Adjusting ZM-5CA MC 500mm f/eight
mavagner wrote: Hello, i am about to buy this lens. It is possible to adjust it to focus to infinity with an adapter? (it is M42 and i have Nikon photographic camera) Give thanks you lot

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Posted: Fri April 24, 2009 x:48 am   Postal service subject:
Subfanatic wrote: As most every other mirror lens, ZM-5A is actually in T-mount and is fitted with M42 adapter. There should exist no problem to notice straight T-mount to Nikon adapter, and the lens also focuses beyond infinity (then it should work even with M42 to Nikon glassless adapter). _________________ LF cameras: � Paul Zeh Kamerawerk Dresden Zeca 12x9 westward. Rodenstock Trinar-Anastigmat 13.5cm f4.5 MF cameras: � Mamiya RB67 Pro-South, M645, 645 Super (x2), 645 Pro TL; � Rolleiflex 2.8F, Infant 4x4 Grey; � Yashica Mat 124G; � Braun Paxina 29 westward. Bodan Rangefinder; � Coronet 6x6 MF glass: � Mamiya-Sekor C 127mm f/3.8, 55mm f/2.eight, 80mm f/2.8, 150mm f/3.5, 210mm f/iv; � Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 180mm f2.eight; � Yashica Yashinon 80mm f3.two; � Bayreuth Praxar 75mm f2.nine 35mm cameras: � Rolleiflex SL35ME; � Contax RTSIII; � Minolta X-700, Ten-370, Hi-Matic 7s; � Wirgin Edixa Reflex D; � Pentax Spotmatic; � Praktica SuperTL; � Vivitar 250SL; � Konica Autoreflex T4; � Zenit East; � Canon EOS 650; � Voigtl�nder Bessamatic & Vito CSR; � Exakta Varex (VX) IIb; � Kodak Retina IIf 35mm glass: � Meyer-Optik Lydith f3.5/30mm, Primoplan f1.9/58mm, Orestor f2.8/100mm, Orestor f2.8/135mm (x2), Orestegor f4/200mm, Primotar f3.v/135mm (x2), Telemegor f5.5/180mm, Telemegor f5.five/250mm; � Pentacon MC f2.8/29mm, MC f1.8/50mm, MC el. f2.8/135mm (x2), preset f2.8/135mm (x2), preset f4/200; � Rollei Planar HFT f1.8/50mm & Distagon HFT f2.8/35mm; � Schneider-Kreuznach Curtagon f4/28mm, Xenon f2/50mm, Xenar f2.eight/50mm, Xenotar f2.eight/80mm; � ISCO Isconar f4/100mm, Isconar f4/135mm, Westar f4.5/100mm, Westanar f4/180mm; � Steinheil Auto-D-Quinaron f2.eight/35mm, Auto-Cassaron f2.8/50mm, BV-Cassarit 3.5/100mm, Culminar f4.5/135; � Voigtl�nder Macro APO-Lanthar f2.5/125mm, Color-Dynarex f4/135mm & Color-Skopar f2.viii/50mm; � Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon f4/20mm (x3), Flektogon f2.4/35mm (x2), Flektogon f2.8/35mm, Pancolar f1.8/50mm, Tessar f2.8/50mm (x2), Biotar f2/58mm, Sonnar f2.viii/85mm, Sonnar f3.v/135mm (x2), Olympic Sonnar f2.8/180mm, Triotar f4/135mm; � Minolta Rokkor 24mm f2.8, 28mm f2.5, 28mm f2.eight, 35mm f2.8, 45mm f2, 50mm f1.7, 58mm f1.2 (x2), 58mm f1.iv (x2), 85mm f1.vii, 100mm f2.5, 135mm f2.viii (x2), Rokkor-TC 135mm f4, Zoom-Rokkor 35-70mm f3.five; � Konica Hexanon f2/35mm, Hexanon f1.8/40mm; � Vivitar 19mm f3.viii, 21mm f3.8 T4; 24mm f2 (x2), 24mm f2.v, 24mm f2.8, 28mm f1.nine, 28mm f2, 28mm f2 CF, 28mm f2.5 (x2), 28mm f2.5 TX, 35mm f1.9 (x2), 55mm f2.8 Macro, 105mm f2.five Apartment Field Macro, 135mm f2.3, 135mm f2.v, 135mm f2.8 CF (x2), 200mm f3.0, 200mm f3.three, 300mm f5.five T4, 24-48mm f3.viii, 24-70mm f3.8, 35-85mm f2.eight (x3), 28-90mm f2.5-three.v, 70-210mm f2.eight-four (x2), 90-180mm F4.5 Flat Field Zoom; � Sigma Pantel 135mm f2.8-f64; � Carena Carenar 135mm f2.8; � Palar Auto 135mm f3.v; � Hanimex MC 200mm f3.3; � Bell&Howell 51mm f1.2; � Marexar CX 28mm f2.eight; � Zykkor MC Auto 50mm f1.7, MC Machine 135mm f2.8; � Astro-Berlin Fernbildlinse f5/400mm; � Piesker Tele-Astranar f5.5/400mm; � Spiratone Sharpshooter f6.3/400mm & Minitel-G f8/500mm; � MC Peleng f3.v/8mm; � PZO Janpol Color 80mm f5.6; � Jupiter 9-f2/85mm, 12-f2.8/35mm; � Helios 44M-four f2/58mm, and information technology doesn't end hither...

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Posted: Friday April 24, 2009 12:xvi pm   Post bailiwick:
Poolhall wrote: This is correct I have a 3M-5A, and use it with a Pentax t-mount, it simply clears the flash housing on my Samsung Gx-ten. The fact it can focus beyond infinity overcomes the extension caused by the t-mount. Btw Its a much better lens than the Sigma 400/5.half-dozen, my version is af and frankly non that good, but every bit Attila says some versions of it are ok, merely a risk what you become.

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